Where's the Price Signal?
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published December 3rd 2008
It is now more clear than ever that Barack Obama is not going to be able to impose a gasoline tax, set a carbon tax, or establish a cap-and-trade plan for carbon emissions in his first year in the White House. How can we have a green revolution without a price signal—a sign to investors that the market for clean energy solutions is huge and a sure thing? I am interested in any ideas you have—and I am sure Obama will be too!
Ideas:
Sobering thought!
A car cost 20 to 50 kdollar and is a writeoff in 5 to 10 years.
A photovoltaic installation on your roof cost 20 to 50 kdollar, makes a profit and is a writeoff in 25 to 30 years.
Investing in a car is never questioned by the guys and girls at the local wateringhole. But when you invest in a photovoltaic system everyone askes you about profitability!
Greetings, Ed
July 1st 2009, 6:09 am
I recently saw a documentary "Earth 2100" where you, John Podesta and Amory Lovins were speakers. Although I do not think our worldwide energy and environmental future will necessarily unfold as that documentary implied, I think something like that future is very likely. Unfortunately, I think the inertia to continue our business as usual modus operendi cannot abate fast enough even if there were a unified international effort to do so. I do not think our Congress or our world leaders are anywhere near working on the crises the Earth 2100 foretold. We are stuck and world overpopulation will become self-correcting in a matter of a few decades. Our generation is leaving a dismal legacy for our children and grandchildren. I wish somehow our world leaders could be shocked into corrective action.
June 24th 2009, 6:27 pm
My bookclub just finished the book. We loved it. The improvement I would make is to the market electricity pricing scenario. Utilities don't pay market price for most of their energy. They agree to buy X number of Kilowatts and pay a fixed price for a 15 - 20 year contract. Charging customers market price around the clock would be major price gouging of the customer. Choosing a reasonable margin would make it easier to keep electricity cheap without making gas more expensive.
May 31st 2009, 10:44 pm
Dear Mr. Friedman,
I have read, enjoyed, and been informed by all of your books.
As you point out, a carbon tax is a necessity. The billions upon billions of decisions that U.S. households and businesses need to make to convert to a sustainable economy—(just consider one individual’s housing decisions: how large a residence, located where, how insulated and sealed, with what fuel, at what room temperature, etc.)—cannot be effectively motivated or implemented without a clear price signal that reflects the associated environmental damage. Such corrected prices contain the information to allow the decentralized network of private transactions that is the market to do what it does best: to allocate resources seamlessly and efficiently.
Below are a few additional points relevant to a carbon or non-renewable fuel “tax.”
(1) I put “tax” in quotation marks because the term should be reserved for government levies whose primary purpose is to provide revenue to finance government activities. That is the reason the government taxes personal income and corporate profits, for example. The problem with taxes such as these is that they create market distortions and efficiency losses by discouraging income-earning and profit-making activities. On the other hand, economic “charges” (such as those on carbon emissions), introduced to correct for negative externalities, are the perfect public finance mechanism in that they remedy rather than create market distortions and efficiency losses. Thus, a charge on carbon emissions has the desirable effect of reducing them.
(2) The way to introduce carbon or non-renewable fuel charges in a politically palatable way, particularly during recessionary times, is to package them with a corresponding tax reduction—say, by reducing or eliminating payroll taxes. Sweden adopted such a revenue-neutral strategy in 1991 when it introduced a tax on carbon emissions while reducing income taxes by a similar amount. By the way, carbon or non-renewable fuel charges also generate an ancillary benefit by diversifying the sources of government revenue—thereby increasing revenue stability and fairness, and reducing incentives to evade taxation.
(3) As some have glibly suggested, why not use (politically attractive) subsidies rather than taxes or charges to promote clean, renewable energy? In fact, government subsidies may make sense, in a limited way, in terms of developing a renewable energy infrastructure or stimulating the successful development of renewable energy technologies. However, relative to a carbon/non-renewable fuel tax, subsidizing every unit of renewable energy produced and used would be a fiscally disastrous mechanism to encourage renewable energy. The reason is that such an economic subsidy would not only fail to provide the revenue-generating benefits of an economic charge; the subsidy itself would generate further debt that would have to be financed by an increase in government taxation of some type, with attendant market distortions and efficiency losses.
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On another subject, on pages 272-3 of HF&C, you refer to the theory that “appropriately planned environmental regulations will stimulate technological innovation…” as “the 'Porter Hypothesis,' first expounded by the Harvard Business School professor Michael Porter in 1991.”
Actually, that theory was previously developed by Nicholas Ashford and others at MIT (myself included) in the 1970s and 1980s in various studies and published research. See, for example, Nicholas A. Ashford, Christine Ayers, and Robert F. Stone, “Using Regulation to Change the Market for Innovation,” Harvard Environmental Law Review, Vol. 9 (1985), No. 2, pp. 419–466, and the MIT references cited therein. (Several writers in the field have noted that the so-called Porter hypothesis was preceded by the work of Ashford, et. al. See, for example, page 154 of Adam B. Jaffe, Steven R. Peterson, Paul R. Portney, and Robert N. Stavins, “Environmental Regulation and the Competitiveness of U.S. Manufacturing: What Does the Evidence Tell Us?” Journal of Economic Literature, Vol. XXXIII (March 1995), pp. 132–163.)
I should mention that, although Ashford and Porter agree that properly designed regulations can have a positive effect on innovative activity, productivity, and competitive position, they do have some fundamental differences about the workings of the innovative process. Ashford’s group at MIT developed both a “weak form” and a “strong form” of regulation-induced innovation theory. The “weak form,” which focuses on modest or incremental innovation in pollution control and, to a lesser extent, on significant pollution prevention, is more or less what Porter’s work emphasizes. The “strong form,” embraced by Ashford’s group at MIT, argues (1) that the source of the most important innovations is new entrants that replace dominant technologies rather than existing technology providers offering incremental change, and (2) that stringent regulation (including the imposition of significant economic charges) can bring about such dramatic innovative responses.
May 21st 2009, 1:09 pm
Tax Oil!
“Peak Oil” is when the rate of extraction of oil from the earth reaches a maximum. The U.S. reached this point in 1970. It now appears that the world reached this point in 2008. Peak oil occurs because of the increasing difficulty in sucking the dwindling supply of oil out of the earth.
So what, you say? The fact is that our nation’s extremely high productivity, our whole extremely high standard of living, depends on this wonderful and inexpensive source of energy. But as its supply diminishes, and as its cost escalates, our productivity and our economy will decline, along with our current luxurious standard of living. So the prospect of our supply of oil dwindling is a big deal, a really very big deal indeed.
Okay, so what can we do about it? This is something that can best be answered in retrospect. Human genius may well create many innovative solutions and/or alternatives to our economy’s oil-based engine. But if we wish to meet the challenge, if we wish to survive the downturn, and if we wish the U.S. to be an economic and technological energy leader, then we must anticipate the problem and attack it now. Waiting until oil costs $200 per barrel will be too late. At that point we would lack the financial capacity to mount an effective effort.
So we must reduce oil consumption and look for alternative solutions. But how do we do that? Easy, just raise the price of oil! This is called basic economics. It is by far the most effective and fastest acting way to reduce oil consumption. The problem with raising the price is, of course, the high price. But this can be solved by returning the tax revenue to U.S. taxpayers as an income tax rebate. In this way we recoup the higher cost of oil as it ripples through the economy. And the higher cost will have exactly the desired effect, of stimulating individual and business actions that create solutions and alternatives to the looming oil crisis before it occurs.
As an example of this oil tax, let us envision a tax of $100 per barrel. That would take us back to July of last year. But now, instead of OPEC pocketing the dough, the money is returned to each and every taxpayer as an income tax refund - a payment of $7,000 for each tax return, twice what the typical taxpayer pays in federal taxes! This pays more than twice the expected increase in the cost of gasoline, with enough left over to accommodate the overall increase in the cost of living due to our other dependencies on oil. And to sweeten the deal the rebates can be given in advance of imposing the tax.
The ripple effect of higher oil prices will not be uniform, with some products increasing in price hardly at all and others, such as air travel, increasing very significantly. Thus natural market forces will encourage every U.S. company and every U.S. taxpayer to attend to the challenge individually, in their own ways, free of government direction or oversight. And this, in turn, will unleash the power of American ingenuity and innovation.
In summary, this technique of forward pricing oil and returning the tax revenue to U.S. taxpayers uses basic market forces efficiently and effectively to achieve the following:
• reduced gasoline consumption
• reduced dependence on foreign oil imports
• reduced net cost of gasoline (by reduced demand)
• a net positive financial gain for most households
• major stimulation of the economy (via the tax rebates)
• reduced carbon dioxide emissions
• major increases in alternative energy research and innovation
• U.S. leadership in alternative energy (via research and innovation)
May 2nd 2009, 1:50 pm
the "net-positive" gas tax
The "net-positive" gas tax is a quadruple-win - a way to suppress gasoline consumption, restrain the escalating price of oil, win majority voter support, and increase consumer spending, all with one very simple gas tax/rebate policy. Read on...
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Richard Lugar, in the February 1 issue of the Washington Post[1], supported Charles Krauthammer’s so-called “net-zero” gas tax idea.[2] This net-zero idea is an eminently fair and painless way to combat our looming oil crisis. What makes the idea so great is that the taxes collected are given back to tax payers in the form of an income tax rebate. And to sweeten the deal, the rebate can even be given before the tax is collected.
By artificially raising the price of gasoline, the net-zero gas tax uses highly effective market forces to channel usage and investment away from oil and toward alternative sources of energy. This market-based approach demonstrated its effectiveness in response to the surge in oil prices last year: gasoline consumption subsided and gasoline prices plummeted. During the surge, it was the Saudi’s pocketing the dough. Net-zero puts the dough back into U.S. taxpayers’ pockets.
The most compelling reason for a net-zero gas tax was neglected by Lugar and Krauthammer, though. The fact is that, on a household-by-household basis, net-zero is actually “net-positive”, and progressive. This is because there is a strong positive correlation between household income and household gasoline consumption.[3] Thus the net-zero tax gives a net positive financial benefit to a significant majority of households, because households with the greatest income tend to be extravagant while households with the least income tend to be frugal. The result is a financial windfall for a substantial majority of taxpayers, especially those with the greatest need. This will then also serve as an added economic stimulus, with immediate and continuing benefit to the economy.
There is urgency in implementing this net-positive gas tax idea, however, because of accelerating declines in global oil production.[4] Oil prices (and political tensions) will escalate in response to the inexorable increases in the global demand for oil, most notably in China and the developing world. Thus if a net-positive gas tax is to be imposed it must be done now, before natural free-market forces drive the price beyond our ability to bear an additional tax. This in fact already happened, last year. Fortunately, the current recession has given us a reprieve, one final window of opportunity it seems. But we must act immediately to hold down the price of oil, or else prepare to open our wallets to OPEC.
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[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
[2] http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/...
[3] http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rhhaefen/Auto051808.pdf
[4] http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2009/2/pa...
March 25th 2009, 8:08 pm
Mr. Friedman
The more I think about it more I am convinced that your idea of a carbon tax giving a market signal would not work. Why? This carbon tax will affect not just the energy comapnies who will conveniently pass it on to the customers as we are held hostage to some form of energy. It will also affect the every truckers, farmers etc who have a very thin margin as it is. This will eventually become one of the taxes whihc we will all pay for and get used to. However if there is a cap on carbon emissions by the energy companies and have a transition of 5 years where there is opportunity to minimize their emissions it will no longer be a tax which they can pass on to the consumer. I believe that the energy companies need to be allowed to change their behaviour by allowing them to gain credits by demonstrating that they were putting in place technology to minimize emission but not trade their way out of it through purchase of credits from other sources. The level of emissions that the energy companies can emit need to be reduced every 3-4 years. There is an additional advantage in this as agricultural land can be brought back to life with the use of perennial pastures such as alfalfa and ryegrass which sequester carbon in the soil and give soil much better health comapred to dumping of fertilizers which takes place today. This encourages both farmers and corporations to buy land and sequester carbon either through shortterm cycling of the land through the use of pastures or longer term locking of the land through afforation programs. The more we encourage the land to be managed better the productivity of the land will go up without affecting the net production capability. Regarding cars in the US it is high time that people used smaller cars and design of the cities in the US changed to development of mall amidst populated areas whihc will enable people to walk to the malls as opposed to use of cars. Public transport is not the most convenient option for all for every purpose however encouraging development of multipurpose suburbs with schools, residential areas, parks and malls to be together allows people to use them more rather than drive longer distances for these purposes. The US needs to change its way of living inorder to reduce carbon emissions. Just blaming the petropolitics will only make people think that it is a problem created by politicians without individuals taking responsibility. If everyone of the US citizens grew a few vegetables in their backyard they would not only save money but also save enacouraging long haul trucking of vegetables. If every US citizen bought a metal dryer of hills hosist as we do in Australia and used it to dry clothes using sun much of the energy would be saved. If every US citizen switched off one of their kids TVs then result would be very good. So Mr. Friedman please put the onus back on the US citizenary who have taken cheap subscidized energy which has come at a cost to the rest of the world for granted. It is lucky that rest of the world is not in a position to impose a carbon tax on America for every item they export. So it high time Americans started understanding that they are a carbon burden on rest of the world. Currently they are also a financial burden on rest of the world. Unless America wants to remain so it needs to change that includes every man wonan and child. Dont be fooled by the chinese or Indian laid back approach to this issue. There are people there who will make changes despite their government irrespective what market signals are as these people are used to saving energy, money and are used to recycling by birth. These people are not used to complaining about lack of uninterrupted electricity as they are used to studying despite these problems. I was one of them who got my masters degree in India studying under candle light as electricity cutback was "normal". Despite this I got university gold medal. I proceeded to do my Phd in Australia with a scholorship. I have never taken my life in Australia for granted. I save every bit of electricity and water I can. There are many more in India like me so Mr. Friedman these people are not bothered about petropolitics but for them the market signal is cheaper unintruppted powersupply and if this happens due to wind or hydro or solar they will work towards it and achieve manufacturing of these components cheaply. How can Ameraica with it arrogant attitude towards energy usage and with its uncompromizing attitude towards lowering standard of life through saving achieving this? No one in the US will be or can be paid lower wages can they so how can you sell your technology at the "Chindia" prices to these countries even without a carbon tax leave alone with one? If the west has to compete with these countries it can only come through monumental innovations whihc China and India are not capable of in the next 5 years. This would include photvoltoic cell which can generate 100 times more than current technology can, a hydrogen compression technology which can compress more hydrogen PSI, better enzymes whihc can generate more biofuels per feedstock, better computing technology which can manage fuel of any sort in a streamlined manner, better solar chaged light bulbs for homes, better irrigation system minimizing water use and maximize food production, a multi purpose approach to farming systems similar to Australia, and more eneryfriendly cities and suburbs. Please dont delude yourself that America will be cleaning the dirt produced by China or India as Americans do not have the mindset to do anycleaning up of Asia. However rest of the world will be happy if America cleans up its own backyard. I hope your next book will be how America can clean up its own backyard.
March 23rd 2009, 5:49 am
I've been trying to learn more about how the 'green sector' plans to acclimate consumers to the 'true cost' of things. When slavery was the only economically viable system for continued prosperity and growth, people thought they knew the true cost of a bale of cotton. After the civil rights movement began and sharecroppers lost their free labor, the cost of cotton changed and consumers adapted.
Well, our materials economy hasn't changed too much. We still have slave labor. The slaves are just in a different country. Plus, we now have environmental considerations, not just human rights considerations.
How can we convince consumers that they need to pay more for everything? Especially in the low- to middle-class income families? How do we convince people that they need less?
I pose these rhetorical questions to provoke thought on these chat boards. What can anyone do to help acclimate the general consumers of the country to a higher cost of goods, services and energy?
A gas tax and related price signals will be hard for the general public to stomach unless they really start to understand the 'true cost' of the American way.
March 22nd 2009, 2:14 pm
Feed-In Tariffs – Boosting Energy for our Future
A guide to one of the world’s best environmental policies.
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March 9th 2009, 7:19 am
Cap-n-Trade or RPS are not enough......we need a FiT and/or DG-R
I am a large commercial solar project developer for a company called Solar Power Partners, one of the biggest solar developers in the US. We have in excess of $200M in funding available this year to invest but are having a very difficult time finding clients. The reason is that even with the Federal ITCs and State rebates, it is very hard to be able to offer solar energy at price parity with the retail energy rates from the utilities. Simply establishing RPS mandates or Cap-n-Trade systems will still enable the utilities to control the renewable energy market and stifle its growth if they want to.
We need to look at methods to regulate the utilities down to a level of granularity that will prevent them from sabotaging renewable energy. Intentionally or not, the major utilities are stifling solar development by increasing the "Demand" potion of their bills relative to the "Consumption" portion. Since solar energy (via Net Metering) can only offset the consumption charges, the portion of their bills we can offset keeps getting smaller and smaller, making it even more difficult to reach price parity. A nationwide solar friendly DG-R (Distributed Generation - Renewables) tariff will prevent the utilities from playing with the tariff structures to keep solar energy from becoming competitive with their fossil-fuel retail energy.
FITs (Feed-in-Tariffs) could immediately launch the development of utility scale solar energy sites to provide wholesale solar energy to the utilities. It would only add a few dollars to the every utility bill (hopefully on the consumption charges, not the demand charges).
Bret Crochet
March 9th 2009, 12:12 am
How would you like to be the Product Planning Manager at a car company, domestic or foreign today? What will demand be for your model mix 5 or 10 years from now? Wouldn't it seem beneficial if government as a spokesman for our society gave these individuals some insight?
It does not seem wise to govern production as we have done with CAFE as opposed to influencing demand.
March 5th 2009, 11:35 pm
Mr. Friedman,
I read and enjoyed Hot, Flat, and Crowded. I think you were successful in making the argument that only by first modifying our market’s price signals that we can make true lasting progress in moving our economy from a carbon-based one. I also agree that the West has no right to lecture advancing economies on the errors of their carbon-based ways, when they are simply attempting to raise the quality of their lives by following our example. This is all the more true as we do nothing serious to mend our ways. Our only option, in my view, is to put our own house in order and by our example lead the way.
I believe that correcting our market is the first, most important, and possibly the only necessary step to bringing about a change from a carbon dominated economy. If the prices of our products and services accurately reflected their cost to the environment, people would change their behaviors. There is no greater force for the cooperation of masses of people toward any goal than their own financial self-interest. This is all the more true in times of economic austerity. There could be no greater force than eight, nine or ten dollar a gallon gas prices to bring about a demand for carbon-efficient transportation and to create a market for efficient transportation solutions.
There is, of course, an obvious political drawback to proposing a seven dollar a gallon carbon tax on gasoline (not to mention the related but equally necessary taxes on coal, heating oil, and other carbon intensive sources of energy). But I believe that the drawback arises not from being too bold, but from being too timid. Our recent brush with bankruptcy in California is an apt example. Despite the fact that the state is nearly broke and the fact that state policy is to drastically cut our greenhouse emissions, our green, Republican governor was unable to get a twelve cent a gallon gas tax passed. The problem, I think, is that twelve cents is too little to be seen as a disincentive for gas use, but large enough to be seen as simply another added tax on a tax weary population. Desperate times call for bold measures.
I therefore propose a theme for your consideration in a hypothetical Chapter 18 to your book: A new compact among and between the citizens of the United States. The compact is simple: That our society will raise money for our mutual purposes only through the taxation of our negative effects on the natural environment, beginning most urgently with greenhouse gases. The corollary to the compact is this: As we tax carbon and environmental pollution, we eliminate income taxes, sales taxes and property taxes, beginning with the most regressive.
I believe such a compact could change our society in positive respects, would be popular with the populace and is practical. The most important benefit is obvious. By correcting market signals in the United States to account for the damage of greenhouse gasses, 200 million people would commence searching for solutions to the problem, rather than the hundreds of thousands of present day true-believers. They would do so because it would make economic sense to do so, for the good of themselves and their families. As was demonstrated in the oil shocks of the seventies and the oughts, a rise in the price of gas can result in the immediate demand for efficient transportation and other alternatives.
The compact would apply much more broadly than to carbon pollution. The same effect should be expected for any environmental impact that was appropriately taxed. Habitat destruction, as you point out in your book, is at least as large a problem as climate change. A tax system under the new compact would no longer tax land on its value, but on how its use impacted on nature. Thus, no tax would be levied on land kept in its natural state. Taxes of increasing amount would be imposed on land used for grazing, farming, and yardscapes, with the largest tax on land that was paved over. There would be no greater tax levied on land for utilizing it more intensively, once it had lost its ecological value. It is not difficult to imagine multitudes of suburban residents linking their large yards together and reverting them to natural habitats, in order to lower their property taxes. Neither is it difficult to imagine large investors deciding to more intensively utilize land whose natural characteristics have already been destroyed rather than destroying the ecological value of undeveloped land.
I also believe that such a compact could become popular now. In fact, this is the point in history to bring such change about. Our current tax system raises the vast majority of its money by creating disincentives for activities that society should encourage, and activities we desperately need. Our system discourages work by seizing a portion of people’s incomes; it discourages spending by taxing sales; and it discourages property ownership by taxing the value of people’s property. Eliminating such a system could have broad appeal to conservative and liberal alike and serve to bring people together, rather than to move them apart. Doesn’t it seem that, whenever a legislature considers new programs or initiatives, or providing help to those that need it, the debate degrades to a routine argument about who the necessary money will be taken from, rather than the necessity for and the good the initiative would do. Such a debate would no longer be necessary. The money would be taken from those of us who pollute and would not create a disincentive for positive behavior. We would have a tax system in which every person would know, by the very fact of paying the tax, that they had contributed to their own survival. And, we would have a tax system in which every person would have a degree of personal control over the amount of taxes they pay. Discussions about how to spend the tax money could become more rational. In the short term, as the price of carbon pollution increased, the reduced income, sales and property taxes would remain in people’s pockets to help them finance alternative solutions to burning carbon.
Finally, I believe such a tax system is practical and could be instituted almost immediately. If there is any single thing at which a government can be efficient and effective, it is the collection of revenue for its operations. The institutions are in place to tax pollution and habitat destruction. Only a change of emphasis is needed. The federal government has the ability to address greenhouse gasses . State government might raise money by addressing air, water, and soil pollutants of more regional significance. County government (my employment and interest) is ideally suited and currently in the business of levying taxes on property. Government need not grow to address our climate and environmental challenges, it need only do what it does best, but with a different emphasis.
I am not so completely naïve as to think that such societal change would be easy. Change is never easy and is always frightening. However, we live in frightening times. Drastic action is needed and is needed now, both to alter our relationship with our environment and to stimulate our economy. I can think of no more effective way to bring about such change than to use the market, and no better way to use the market than to adjust prices through taxes. The hard part is to convince people there is a better way. We need opinion leaders such as yourself to articulate the possibilities and lead the conversation. I know you do this daily through your books, columns and activities. I can only encourage you to keep up the good fight.
March 2nd 2009, 10:27 pm
I believe the best way to create the price signals is not through government regulations or intervention. I believe there is a way to harness the power of the internet the same way Barak Obama and Ron Paul did when running for the president. I believe there could be a futures market designed based on Green Energy's. We might be betting on our future by not making a change so why not reverse that and bet on a future of what the change will be. This futures market can be setup based on digg.com type website where the energy companies that are the most popular will gain the most public investment via Money Bombs and old fashion grass roots funding instead of massive venture capital companies. Just think if only 3 percent of the us population gave 5 dollars extra beyond taxes to clean energy fund that is not run by the government and was some how not run by thieves how this money could be dispersed and create great things.
January 27th 2009, 1:10 am
Make it sexy to go green!
If there's demand, investors will come. Make it sexy to go green! Let the desperate housewives talk about going green. Let Oprah talk about energy saving lamps. Let two and a half man joke about it. Let the janitor in scrubs get on a crusade at the sacred heart hospital to reduce energy costs.
You will get a movement out of things like that much easier than by taxes.
January 21st 2009, 3:27 pm
I was excited to read your piece,"Obama must hold bankers responsible." It was the first agressive targeting of bankers that I've read from a prominent person in the past 9 days since "60 Minutes" aired its segment on how the investment banking community used ex-Enron traders and their ENRON developed tactics to artifically drive prices of oil (and therefore gasoline) up over the course of 2007 and 2008. True supply and demand forces were not in play, just coordinated manipulation of supply & demand through uncontrolled futures trading and those same banks analysts' pumping up investor demand. The resulting high energy prices triggered the economic slide as personal and commercial transportation costs doubled or more. Inability to pay mortgages and reduced/eliminated discretionary spending were the results. Another reason to hold banks accountable. They shot us and themselves in the foot with their greed.
January 20th 2009, 4:05 pm
It should be noted that the oil companies have deliberately cut back on oil processing [1/09] at a time when there are oil tankers anchored in the oceans all over the world because there is nowhere to deliver the oil. Also,the number of active rotary oil rigs drilling for crude in the US in 1988 was 554; in 1999 it was 128; and in 2007 it was 297. Although the American public is being led to believe the oil companies need more drilling rights, they are not drilling where they have rights now.
This is what you get with monopolies. Excess profits, which are always penalized by governments such as Great Britain, where BP was hit with a 30% excess profits tax in 2001, are being rewarded in America by giving the same profiteers a tax cut. Deregulation has lead to this economic breakdown. And regulation can get us out of it.
In other words, regulation of the oil companies could bring the price of gas down to where it was in 2000 $.89 per gallon and then we could attain revenue by applying an increased gas tax.
More importantly, can a democracy exist with monopolies and without regulation?
January 19th 2009, 12:36 pm
I would like the Obama administration to look into the creation of an Organization of Petroleum Importing Countries (OPIC) to counterbalance OPEC. I thought of this idea while reading Chapter Four of "Hot, Flat, and Crowded". A quick web search on "OPIC" brought up a couple of bloggers who have mentioned the idea, but mainly did so as a reaction against OPEC. If given the right regulatory imperatives, an OPIC could incentivize green technologies by making them more competitive against a higher average energy price, provide downward pressure on demand and global crude oil prices, and generate international consensus for a move away from carbon-based technology in developed and developing countries.
I just started thinking about this idea today, so please help me flesh it out or correct me where I'm wrong. Here's how I see it working: The chief responsibility of an OPIC would be to collectively bargain for lower crude oil prices against the price set by OPEC. In addition, OPIC would be responsible for maintaining agreements whereby member countries would implement fuel taxes to provide downward pressure on demand within their own countries and to create funds to reinvest in clean/green/carbon-free technology development. The fuel taxes would provide a price incentive that would encourage efficient and renewable energy technologies. By implementing fuel taxes in concert, OPIC member countries could avoid handicapping their own nations' economies relative to that of other member countries. Implementing an OPIC-wide fuel tax would also dampen demand for crude oil, provide downward pressure on the price of oil without collapsing the cost of fuel, and help balance international power between those countries that have many petro-dollars with which to influence geopolitics and those countries that must, for the time being, provide energy for their citizens from abroad.
January 19th 2009, 1:07 am
Why can't we start by practicing a lot of Western Europe's time worn and proven "Price Signals"? I'm sure the Germans would love to be as wasteful a society as we are, but they can't afford it. When I was an exchange student in Germany 25 years ago I was amazed that a family of four could get by with one of those "college sized" mini fridges, and that the garbage can they left on the curb each week was slightly bigger than a grocery bag. The also had this strange practice called "recycling", so there was a lot of stuff that you weren'y legally allowed to throw into your trash can. Whenever someone left a room, they always turned the lights off. Further, the family drove one small car and used the bus as much as possible because gas was ridiculously expensive. We need to penalize waste and excess, just like they have been doing for decades. We also need to reward conservation, because a lot of times it just costs more to be green. A really stupid example from just North of us: In Vancouver Canada they have a light rail system called the "Skytrain". I was staying with my family in the nearby suburb of Burnaby for a sporting event, and we decided to go Downtown for the evening. We took the Skytrain, which was about a quarter mile walk away from our hotel. We were in the cheapest "off peak" time period, and it cost my party of four people $20 to travel the five miles to downtown Vancouver and back. Once in the heart of downtown, we noticed that there was plenty of parking available at a flat rate of $10 for an evening. So taking public transportation cost us twice as much as it would have to drive ourselves and park, and was much less convenient. Since that trip, whenever I am in Vancouver I always look at the Skytrain cars as they go by, and except at rush hour they seem to be very sparesly populated. now I know why. The system is so high priced it's cheaper to drive. And since the system is too expensive to use, there is the added farce of empty or nearly empty train cars shuttling around the city all day long. If the trains run regardless of whether anyone is on them or not, why not make them cheap enough so people will actually use them?
January 16th 2009, 7:32 am
I have greatly enjoyed Hot Flat and Crowded, and would bet that Obama has read it as well, judging from many of his ideas and his appointment of Steven Chu to the Dept of Energy. Your arguments and examples are compelling. If you want your ideas adopted, however, and I am confident that you do, CHAPTER 18, rather than devising a price signal, which I'm not sure is a realistic possibility, will have to deal with the issue of the Market. It will have to direct itself to those who will insist that The Market will take care of it, and those that say that too much regulation and market manipulation will be dangerous for our economic health. Much of what you recommend in your book requires regulation and very specific legislation to be achieved. The market does a good job of determining prices of goods and services, but Chapter 18 needs to consider the LIMITATIONS OF THE MARKET--which are legion. I'm not recommending eliminating capitalism or the market system, simply acknowledging that there are limits in what it can accomplish, especially when dealing with environmental issues. If all those things that the market CANNOT do become clear, then, ipso facto, the only options will be what you suggest: incentives and regulation.
The whole idea of limitations brings to mind "The Tragedy of the Commons." In this case the "commons" involves air, water and climate. The commons are, by definition not part of the market and their use/abuse carries no economic cost to the user. An example of one success story in regard to air pollution is the effort of California's legislation to clean up auto emissions. It illustrates that regulation succeded where the market failed to do anything but aggravate the problem. California's legislation regarding auto emissions standards has served as a model for other areas in the U.S. (The Northeast states adopted similar rules) and outside the country (Catalytic converters and many of California's regulations were finally adopted in Mexico City). The market, especially the Japanese, responded, but it would not have occurred without regulation. The California state government couldn't provide a price signal. The air (the "commons") was not included in the market, not given a price. However, the cost of the air pollution was born by people's lungs and eyes. It was a non-economic cost, though a very high and physically painful one. We have to intervene collectively to stem those externalities which we find repugnant or unhealthy. Regulation should not be viewed as interfering with the market. In this case the market was both failing us and interfering with our collective health and welfare. It is appropriate in a democracy that such externalities be addressed. If possible, the regulation should be designed not only to eliminate negative externalities, but, in addition,to create positive ones. Clean running cars provide clean air, less asthma and fewer heart and lung problems. The auto industry didn't collapse and our air improved.
We Californians wanted breathable air, but, individually, could not force the market to respond. How would it be possible to buy a less polluting car if there are none to buy?? Regulations gave us that option forcing the market to create something we needed in order to breathe. This is another flaw in the concept of the market. It may need regulation because it does not necessarily produce what people want to buy.
There is another area where the market is deficient. Large-scale endeavors and those with communitarian goals need a large entity to bring them about. For instance, we want to have an educated citizenry so we provide free (or more affordable) public education at all levels. (Granted, achieving this goal has become increasingly problematic in recent times, but, so far, we haven't shut down the public schools and thrown everyone into the private education system!) Often these community-wide goals need to be fostered by the government either directly or indirectly. Several more examples:
--The evolution of the internet, which has given a whole new meaning to the concept of "infrastructure" was done through the work of universities, the military and others. It was too big and wide-ranging to be generated in someone's garage.
--National Institutes of Health which not only develops the flu vaccines we use each year, but most of the breakthrough drugs which are later produced by companies. Much as Big Pharma claims that they need to charge high prices to fund their research, they mostly come up with "me too" drugs, not the big breakthroughs. Those take place largely in universities under the aegis of the NIH.
--Regulation creating smoke-free areas--in California, making it a virtually smoke-free state. Trying to get rid of cigarettes through the market just seemed to enrich the tobacco companies. Public health in this regard has improved. Cancer rates, partly for this reason, have started to actually go down. Making cigarettes extremely expensive didn't work. Making it, through regulation, extremely difficult to find a place to legally smoke did.
I'm sure you can think of many others.
Further addressing the concept of the FREE Market which those on the Right subscribe to in such a slavish and blinkered fashion, there are several reasons why the FREE (i.e. largely unregulated) Market is a MYTH:
--For one thing, the FREE Market assumes several conditions. One of these is perfect knowledge. Something we don't have. When you buy a can of meat, how do you know it's not contaminated? The answer is that you don't. In this country you are counting on goverment regulation and the ethical conduct of the producers to provide a safe product. Perfect knowledge might have prevented the Mortgage crisis and the derivatives mess, but it doesn't exist, so the mess happened. Absent perfect knowledge, we need regulation, so that our assumptions of safety are supported and in order to provide stability to the markets. Conservatives carp that industry needs less regulation. It may be possible to have too much regulation. However, after the spinach crisis in California which kept all spinach from all spinach growers in the state from reaching the market for an extended period of time, guess who requested better regulation and inspection? The Spinach growers. Those many who were not at fault wanted to have the assurance that the few where there might be a problem were stopped or located quickly. Regulation can contribute to stability for the producer as well as the consumer. Stability does not have a market price, but the cost of paying for the regulators does. Therefore, just looking at the market reaction to regulation does not provide an accurate picture of the value of regulation. The market only register the cost, not the benefit.
-- For another thing, a FREE market also assumes the free flow of labor, including across borders. Just as we do not have perfect knowledge, we do not have a free international flow of labor. Also, there are workers in declining industries in this country that can't move because they can't sell their houses there being no market for them when their whole community is suffering. The idea that workers can just pickup and go to where there is work is not always true. Hence, the need for retraining and for some kind of plan by the community or local government to help develop new sources of jobs. This can take a long time, and may never happen adequately. Flint Michigan is an example.
--Additionally, in a totally unregulated market, anything for which a market price could be determined could be freely bought and sold. That could include things such as the following: 1) Prostitution;
2) Slavery; 3) Addictive drugs. These things have a market price and ARE bought and sold, but, at least in our economy, are illegal. As a society we have decided that these are not in the ethical sense "goods", but rather "bads" and therefore should not be included in the market. Well, if we can legislate against these things, then why would we not legislate against air polluters, water polluters and CO2 producers as endangering our health and welfare and indeed risking the health of the entire planet?? Those aren't "bads"? It is NOT a question of whether to regulate in a market economy, it is a question of WHAT TO REGULATE and TO WHAT DEGREE. The market is a human construct, and we are entitled to modify the rules under which it works.
It can be argued also that the market doesn't do a very good job of distinguishing between the LONG RUN and the SHORT RUN. If you are a Senior in high school and want to earn as much money as possible the year after you graduate, would you go to college or get a job? Obviously, you would get a job since going to college is only going to cost you money. If, instead, this Senior wanted to earn as much as possible during her lifetime, her decision would be different. In that case, she would probably opt to go to college. As demonstrated by this example, the difference between thinking in terms of the long run as opposed to the short run can lead to dramatically different decisions. In your description of what has happened to the solar industry and the wind turbine industry which were not nurtured during a prolonged period of ups and--mostly--downs in energy prices, the short run was really all the market cared about and our government policies did little to counteract that. When there is something we regard as vital to our welfare, like milk, we do support it (with price supports) to ensure that is will be available regardless of the vagaries of the market. Who would be opposed to supporting milk?? Well, the mother's milk of our energy future needs support just as surely. It's really no different.
Frankly, now that your ideas for energy development seem to be gaining so much traction, I think the only way you can inveigh against those who cannot recognize the need for government action is to destroy their arguments in support of an unfettered market just as you so convincingly demonstrated the urgent need to develop a sustainable energy economy. I'm not sure this is possible in a single chapter or even two of them. IT MAY TAKE NOTHING SHORT OF ANOTHER BOOK! There are many things the market is incapable of doing. The whole concept of a Free (unregulated) Market is so erroneous and so obscures clear thinking that it needs to be exposed as untenable. It is merely an excuse to do nothing, which, as you so ably demonstrated in your recent book is really not an option. You can't ask for a price signal where there isn't going to be one. You can, however, make a convincing case for why The Market should be strategically designed to serve the planet. It is not the sacred and untouchable cow so many have tried to make us believe. You introduced the idea of the "energy economy". Now is the time to introduce a new way of viewing The Market itself.
January 12th 2009, 10:59 pm
I applaud you for writing this book. I hope it will be read by enough people, as well as understood, to ignite a "Revolution". That's truly what needs to happen...and soon. I believe in keeping it simple so implementing a permanent federal gasoline tax of $1.00 per gallon would let the “market” take care of the rest. Hoping Obama has the balls to push it through!
January 12th 2009, 5:09 pm
I just read your article, "Win, Win, Win, Win, Win..." and completely agree with you. Generally, I agree with Obama's stimulus plans, but he's running the risk of having a "train wreck" on his green plans. You can't allow gasoline prices to fall to $1.50 or $2 a gallon while pouring govt. sponsored capital into technologies designed to move us away from gasoline. He runs the risk of spending billions "to create millions of green jobs" and winding up with little to show for it. Try getting re elected on that track record. You clearly understand this. You're highly regarded by much of the country. You've got to move the dialogue towards your views. A gas tax should be used to PAY for the investment in green tech. Not only will it make the green tech effort more successful, but it will also help reduce the size of the gargantuan deficit. You could almost force the effort to be successful if you set the tax high enough, though that could be bad for the economy. I'm only suggesting imposing a tax that would keep gas prices at $2.50-$2.75 a gallon. Those prices until very recently were viewed as a bargain by the general public. The government seems to have blown it, and now OPEC will capture the gradual rise in oil prices that OPEC has been recently enacting, if you hadn't noticed.
January 11th 2009, 9:37 pm
Hello Tom:
I just finished reading Hot, Flat, and Crowded. The part that really brought tears to my eyes was about the U.S. solar tech company that became a German success story.
This drives home the point that the U.s. market, as currently constructed, with the "all-you-can-eat" buffet of cheap (cheap because pollution, and carbon emissions, our being held hostage to foreigner influences are not factored into the cost) fossil fuels will not reform itself without a change of incentives. Leadership has to provide these incentives by taxing carbon. I agree that incentives need to be he form of 1) substantial gas-at-the-pump taxes (i.e., a fluctuating tax that keeps gas at, say, $4.00+ per gallon or whatever the economists agree is the change incentive) and 2) a carbon tax in the utility bill (talk of “clean coal”,an oxymoron, is just a delay tactic).
We should be looking at what has been accomplished in Sweden (see letter, above), Denmark, Germany, as well as policies taking shape China, as you noted in your book.
I agree with other writers that once the long-term market incentives are put in place, the technology will take care of itself.
My biggest fear is that complacency, due to ignorance, as well as resistance to change, due to entrenched interests, will perpetuate business as usual. Let's find out where each and every one of our elected officials stand on these issues, and work to dispel the political obstacles to change. Your analogy is astute, when you say that with the fluctuating price of gas, every time the price goes up, we are paying "taxes" to the Saudis and terrorists – taxes that could have been used right here in the U.S. to promote energy efficiency, energy independence, conservation, and noncarbon fuel and power sources. We need to get this point across to our elected officials.
You are also right that a grass-roots movement can be instrumental. I’m beginning my letter-writing today.
Thank you for your books and columns.
Diana Dakey
Millersburg, PA
January 11th 2009, 6:09 pm
The politics of a carbon tax are obviously problematic, but if there ever is a chance to squeeze something in, it would be as part of the stimulus package. With tax cuts already on the table and no immediate need to balance the budget, lets try adding a carbon tax with a 100% offsetting cash rebate to all taxpayers, weighted toward the lower & middle class. This would put cash in peoples hands to offset increased gas prices. Those that conserve get an extra bonus.
January 10th 2009, 1:20 am
Dear Dr. Friedman;
As someone who has just returned to the US from Europe (where up to 80% of the cost of gasoline is tax), I agree - broadly - with your 12 / 29 / 08 "Win, Win, Win, Win, Win" article proposing a gas tax increase of $0.10 per gallon per month over the next two years........ but there are two big problems:
FIRST, this level is probably too high to be politically acceptable. In two years time, oil prices are likely to be back over $100 per barrel (which will equate to a gas price of over $3.00 per gallon at the pump), and will mean over $5.40 per gallon to the consumer under your system. Not nice.
Also, as we've seen, oil prices can go up and down dramatically. How about modifying your proposal to a tax increase of $0.05 per gallon per month so long as average prices at the pump (including the tax) stay below - say - $4.00 per gallon. Once average prices hit $4.00, the monthly tax increase stops; Once average prices at the pump increase to $5.00 per gallon, the tax drops by $0.05 per gallon. This could be a nice way to help even things out, and add some stability to an uncertain world.
[I think AAA publishes average gasoline prices monthly, and the Treasury could easily re-set the tax monthly]
SECOND (and this remains a problem in Europe), this tax will generate a lot of revenue. The temptation will be for the Government to put this into the general coffers (as it does in most European countries).
If this tax is to be broadly acceptable to Americans, the revenues should be used only for specific, pre-agreed items such as improved transport infrastructure or development of green technology. NB, both of these items are in the new administration's spending proposals, so this would help balance the budget.
What do you think?
January 5th 2009, 8:50 pm
To MW and others who want to tax and/or subsidize certain types of vehicles, for example tax trucks and subsidize hybrid vehicles:
This is bunk. If you want to reduce usage of certain fuels, then tax these fuels. Encouraging people to buy more fuel efficient vehicles with a subsidy does nothing if fuel is cheap, because they simply tend to drive farther. Subsidies and indirect taxes just end up confusing the markets so that our taxes are spent in very unfair and inefficient ways with questionable net benefits, Whether or not we should levy more taxes on fossil fuels should also be debated and tested very carefully before wide scale implementation, so that we don't mess up the economy unduly. If oil becomes more scarce the price will go up and alternatives will be developed and/or usage will decrease through more conservation..it's not clear that we need more price signals.
January 4th 2009, 12:02 am
We must set a price signal high enough to push ourselves away from foreign oil dependency and toward sustainable energy sources, but it simply won't be done during this economic crisis. What if the Obama administration attached green strings to stimulus packages for both businesses and citizens in the immediate future, funding strategies that move us toward energy independence and greater global competitiveness? During the stimulus period, they also should announce a large fuel tax to take effect in 18 - 24 months. By then, the pendulum likely will be swinging back toward a strengthened economy and, even if is not, that would give each of us time to prepare. Announcing the tax now would keep us focused on what must be done to get off our self-destructive path. The proceeds from the taxes could fund expanded jobs in the energy and infrastructure sectors as well as be rebated to those who give back to our society by making their homes or businesses greener and themselves better ready to compete in the global market through education and training. For the smart citizen, such a tax could be a wash.
December 29th 2008, 5:58 pm
Eliminate the Personal and Corporate "Business" tax write off for car's ( mostly subject to fraud and abuse) and LOWER the corporate and personal income tax.Implement the FAIR TAX by ELIMINATING all other Travel,,Meals,Hotels Conventions" Business Deductions"(another tax payer subsidy which we all pay for) which the tax payer should NOT UNDERWRITE with a lower corporate tax.Its the subject which NO Political Party will touch.Why hasn't the IRS ROLLED BACK MILEAGE ALLOWANCE to reflect $1.50 gas.
Joel steinfeld ,Annandale NJ
December 29th 2008, 11:39 am
Just finished Hot, Flat and Crowded and enjoyed it!
There needs to be more discussion of the "Crowded" part. Clearly some countries such as China (with their one child law) are making an effort to limit population growth. Other countries such as India and some African nations don't seem to be limiting population growth and are bringing children into the world who will suffer lack of basics such as food, clothing and education. There needs to be more emphasis on limiting population growth.
December 29th 2008, 11:35 am
Instead of putting a tax on gas, put it on the vehicle owners. In addition to some of the ideas already expressed, also put a tax on the purchase of trucks and SUVs.
December 29th 2008, 1:29 am
Rebate for high mileage cars - frought with possiblities for tomfoolery and unfair to other conservation efforts. Be more direct...
In these troubled economic times we all - not just new car buyers (even if it is a Prius) but other people who might be conserving by walking or bicycle or staying home or taking transit - need some money - say $2000 for everyone/family who files a 1040 followed the next day by Federal tax of $2/gal on gasoline to repay the government for the rebate.
We would be healthier, have better trade balance, less carbon footprint, have better global market leverage to increasing oil prices and save face and get credit from the rest of the World for FINALLY doing something meaningful
See:
www.geocities.com/dpierce3
December 29th 2008, 12:50 am
I have Five Ideas.
1. $10,000 refundable rebate on the purchase of any new or used vehicle that get's over 35 MPG on average or has zero emmisions.
This would more then double the current credit and make it available to those with low or no tax liabilities. It would also make say a $35,000 Hybrid Camry affordable for most families and a $25,000 Hybrid Prius affordable for most entry level buyers.
The Rebate could even be dispersed at the point of sale at the dealership and the IRS would just reimburse the dealers quarterly.
2. Eliminate Capital Gains Taxes on any profits derived from investments made in Companies that are developing and selling technologies that will eliminate or vastly reduce our dependance on Oil as well as reduce Co2 output. As well provide a 10 year exemption from the Federal Corporate Income Tax on any profits these companies make
3. Establish a National Enterprise Fund like my state of Texas did, but for the sole purpose of luring capital and entrepernuers to our shores for the purpose of establishing start ups and firms dedicated to producing green technology.
4. Establish a "Carbon Reduction Credit". Have the government establish a means for recording the carbon footprints of businesses and provide a say $25 per ton tax credit to businesses that reduce their carbon foot print.
5. Increase the R&D Tax Credit from 10% to 25% for businesses that devote the bulk of their R&D budgets to renewables and green technology.
December 28th 2008, 10:06 pm
Flat taxes would help reduce incentives for indirectly subsidized waste
such as unnecessary gas hogs. The first 40K or so of household expense could still be tax free (phase outs with larger incomes). Caps on corporate personal incomes. Reduced social security & medicaire benefits
for larger income beneficiaries/couples (or tax it). Incentives to keep foreign trained engineers, and the like, to work in the US. Getting rid of any corporate deductablility for large incomes, stock options, derivatives
& hedge income activity. Getting rid of capital gains taxes and gettng
rid of any write offs for capital losses. Close uneeded military bases.
VAT needed to help pay for technology and other infrastructure (mass transit et al). Phase out defined benefit retirement programs for governmental and nongovernmental entities. Let GM go bankrupt so courts
can get it reorganized. It's (latter) has been around for 100 years, no
welfare of any kind needed.
December 24th 2008, 11:30 am
I love how some folks are now using what should be objective and unbiased science to create new religious movements....calling people "global warming deniers" and such. How ridiculous. Please, we had enough tragedies in human history all in the name of religions. The negative economics and politics being created by our energy security problems should provide plenty of impetus to work on building the conservation solutions, infrastructures and alternative supply sources. Lets not cloud the facts or limit the choices because of religious movements. Yes, there may be some relationship between the weather and anthropogenic sources of CO2, but the details are generally poorly understood...this is why we see such a wide range in the temperature rise predicted by computer models, in addition to very low confidence levels in any measured trends. Furthermore, the economic and social impacts on either side of the equation are impossible to predict. Just as there may be huge negative impacts from global warming, there may also be huge negative impacts from taxing fossil fuel use.
December 23rd 2008, 10:12 pm
Dear Mr.Friedman,
I have read all your books but I must say that your latest "Hot Flat and Crowded" has got me think even more than your other books did. Your book " The world is flat " made me smile as I live in the city that made you discover just how flat the world is ( Bangalore) and this made me so proud being an Indian and at the helm of what every one considers ultimate progressiveness. This book of yours made me realise the politics behind everything!And having read it directly after the Mumbai blasts, a thought occured to me. The same group that owns the Taj Hotel ( Tata and Sons)also owns the largest auto manufacturing company in India ( Telco) and now Jaguar. The irony is that their cars are fueled on petrol from petrol producing nations that have played an instrumental role in funding the jihadis someway or the other. Isnt it ironic then that the group that gives them their funds in a round about way, has had to suffer the maximum material damage during these blasts ?
I wonder if we can actually use the funds we are all putting into securtitising ourselves into a programme heralded by an overwhelming number of senior citizens that we have in each nation( look at the US auto market that spends so much money on retired people ) and get them ( wise human capital) to spend their time "educating" and teaching people around the world the right way to live in peace and harmony. Can't we use the same carrots that motivate them to kill and destroy to motivate them to create and build ?
I dont know : I am confused : but all I know is that the biggest resource we have is our people and if we unleash this power in intense projects that spend time building human values and capital, may be we could create a better more peaceful place to live in. That itself would be a green revolution of sorts.
I love your books and I look forward to your next !
Regards
Dipali
December 23rd 2008, 11:29 am
Hi Thomas Friedman,
What a great book! Thank you. After reading and enjoying it, I am buying it for many of my clients, who include people at the oilcos, most of whom are still in the global warming denier phase (probably because selling less oil is against their short-term self-interests). Having made my money cleaning up big oil's environmental waste problems for most of my career, I have been dumb-founded by the complexity of the biggest problem fossil fuel has contributed to: global warming. I am struck by the simplicity and power of your analysis and feel inspired; perhaps we can solve this problem after all while not bankrupting ourselves or losing our prosperous way of life! Congratulations, I hope you will become one of the brains of the coming green revolution in North America.
To me, any relevant solution comes down to pricing and price-signals. Despite all our best intentions, most of us remain moved by the short-term appeal and power of the almighty dollar: as consumers, business owners, workers, investors, politicians and voters: most of us need or want to save or make money to make progress. While determining priorities we tend to think in months, quarters or years, not in decades or centuries.
So, if we want change, we need to 1) tax bad things, including carbon emission, not good things like labour and income 2) measure degradation and waste and cost these properly into the production processes and our economic prosperity indicators. In other words: the true cost of long term degradation and waste generation must be translated into our short term buying decisions.
"All" that is required is the political will to implement many of the great ideas you and many of your readers have described. Entrenched interests and old ways of doing things by oil, car, utility companies and all who get paid by them will resist this change and may agitate the electorate against it. This is an easy thing to do: these industries still have lots of money and will fight for their survival and entitlements. In addition, I think most people typically want comfort and are not craving revolutions or changes until it is too late for a relatively peaceful transition.
This past summer, oil priced itself out of the market and created so much headwind for many of the world's economies that the wheels started to come off everywhere. With oil now almost back where we started before the latest commodity bubble, it is time for a brave politican like Mr. Obama to step in and make the changes required to set us off in the right direction. I have been hopeful that he would, yet it is surprising to me to see that even you seem to have concluded that he will not be able to 'break the back' of our large scale in-action.
We need this peaceful green revolution. Nothing less than the prosperity of our children and the meaningful survival of our species is at risk. Mr.Obama, make the hard decisions: deliver the change and make us pay now, one dollar at a time. Thomas Friedman, help us gain momentum to shape this revolution.
Rene de Vries, P.Geo.
Earth Scientist
Toronto, Canada
December 21st 2008, 9:37 pm
Why not shift some of the current tax burden from income to energy consumption and keeping it revenue neutral. Reduce the income tax and transfer it to consumption of energy. You might pay an increased tax at the pump of to the utility but the real deal would happen on an annual basis on the 15th of April. Those who consume less energy would shoulder less of the tax burden.
Depending on how aggressive you wanted to be you could transfer more or less of the tax burden. It could be that initially an agressive transfer could be undertaken innitialy. once new habits were formed and new systems were in place the burden could gradually be returned to something more like the current tax system.
Most energy purchases are currently tracked and billed by utilities. Only gasoline can be purchased with cash with no personal record of purchase. A new system would have to be addopted to track these purchases. This method could also be applied to other precious resources where conservation is warranted, like water.
Everyone would then have an immediate and ongoing financial interest in using less energy, in purchasing the most energy efficient products, etc...
December 21st 2008, 8:14 am
We were driving through west Texas and passed through a huge wind farm. There were over 100 wind mills. The only movement we could see was the up and down motion of an oil pumping unit that was tucked discreetly between these giant and very still windmills.
December 20th 2008, 1:13 pm
This was my answer previously posted on Linked in:
I would use a creative but in my view effective solution: the poluter invests.
Consider the following idea: for every gallon of gas, the buyer pays i.e. 20 cents extra. Now this money does not go to the government but is placed on a environment investments account of this buyer (you'd have to use a card while paying so the money ends up there). On this account you therefor save up money. On a corresponding internet site, the accounts owner can then invest the money on (government) approved investment opportunities that help the environment such as windmill parks, companies researching better and greener methods etc etc. or even on personal green improvements such as solar panels for on your own roof. You can't spend the money otherwise, just in these investments. The shares or bonds etc. are however yours to use and benefit from as you please.
The result would be a huge amount of extra investment money available. It would not be an extra tax as you get to invest it yourself. So what you get is
- a lot of available funds
- the market decides (the (approved) companies selling stocks or bonds need to convince the public their investment will show results or the people will choose other options)
- no extra tax
- the more polutants are used, the more money gets available to find solutions
- a boost for the economy.
The reason I think this will boost the economy is that the current recession is caused by a decrease in demand based on nothing substantial. People are just afraid and keep their money in their pocket. To increase demand again you can:
- tax and spend, force the money out of the pockets and spend it for them
- lower taxes for the lower incomes: Lower incomes spend what they've got cause they've got no choice. Increase what they've got and they spend more. (This won't work with higher incomes)
- find a trick to make people spend/invest again
My proposed idea would do the latter. It's a good trick to make people invest.
It does not involve increasing tax. The market decides about the spending (regulated by the government as to what companies get to tap into this money), but the people get to choose. The result stays the property of the people that put up the money. And the poluter is the one that gets to pay.
The more someone is part of the problem, the more that someone gets to part of the solution.
December 19th 2008, 4:22 am
Think of "price" not necessary in the form cash and the penalty can be direct or indirect. Examples are reputation, business alliances, peer pressure, religious concerns, non-preferred vendor, discount/allowable deduction from certain tax - personal or corporate (reversal of new tax),...
December 19th 2008, 3:09 am
Here is a way to provide a price signal or add a tax and have no effect on the economy!!
If we as a nation want to get serious about reducing gas consumption and thereby help alleviate the threat of global warming, there is a way that is quick, efficient, with virtually no negative effect on economy and will not unduly burden any group.
We all know that the most efficient way is through economics. The gas price spike last year showed us that consumption will drop significantly and that was when cost of gas was in the $4 range. Imagine if gas costs rose to European levels of at least double that.
Of course it would be politically impossible to just raise gas taxes as they have done in Europe and most of the world. The disruption to the economy and the burden on average Americans and especially the poor plus the idea of raising taxes would kill that idea. There is however a way to accomplish this without above drawbacks. Suppose we raised the tax so gas cost $6+ at the pump but every penny collected is returned as a tax credit with every taxpayer having a drivers license getting the same dollar amount. This tax should only be applied to pump gasoline. Diesel for commercial vehicles, heating oil, or jet fuel needs a little different treatment so that production and distribution costs would be minimally affected. The economy should not be affected since every penny collected from this gas tax is returned. Since everybody gets same dollar amount, if you consume more than average amount of gas in a year you will end up paying more at pump than you get back in tax credit. Conversely if you take a lot of transit and drive very little, you will come out way ahead. If you consume an average amount of fuel you should come close to breaking even. Cost of implementing this program would be virtually zero. The system for collecting this tax is already in place and it would only take a few lines of programming for IRS to compute the tax credit. Withholding from paycheck can be reduced to account for tax credit so that you don’t have to wait until tax time to get your money back. The idea is that even though your paycheck will be a bit bigger when you have to pay $6+ per gallon you will think twice about what type of vehicle you will buy and about how much you drive. Carpooling or transit will make more sense and we will be a little more careful in choosing to drive somewhere.
Now, the key feature of this is that every penny collected is returned so that there is no new tax to the government so even conservatives can support this idea and democrats don't have to worry about being labeled as tax raisers. The tax will not be regressive since the poor tend to use mass transit more and do not drive the big gas hogs, and since everybody gets same dollar amount in tax credit the poor will most likely come out ahead. The other very positive possibility is that without competition from cheap oil, developments into alternative fuels will expand. Biofuels can get preferential tax breaks based on how green each technology is. It would probably be best to phase the tax in at say 50 cents/gallon per year for 10 years to let industry and consumers adjust.
This should actually help the auto industry since everybody will want to phase out his or her old vehicles and buy a new fuel efficient one.
As far as commercial diesel costs are concerned I believe that we need to squeeze out more efficiency in transportation and heating oil. Therefore I propose that commercial diesel get a tax of 25¢ per gallon per year for same time period. I propose that the tax from commercial diesel not be rebated but used to fund transportation infrastructure. The extra cost will have to be passed on to the consumers but it will be minimal since the reduced demand will keep overall oil prices down.
For consumer diesel for cars and RV’s etc I think we should use 80% of gasoline tax or 40cents/gallon/year for 10 years. Vehicles using diesel are 20% more fuel efficient so it would be good policy to encourage its use.
Everything we do in this country has been based on cheap gas. The type of vehicle we use and how far we are willing to commute is based on cheap gas. Without an economic incentive to change our behavior, only marginal improvements will occur. Technology will only help us when it can compete economically with cheap gas.
We could so easily change our energy use patterns by using economics. Why doesn’t every single house in sunny Nevada and California produce 2-3 KW of solar electricity? The technology is there but it does not make economic sense when payback period is somewhere around 10+ years. If we can change the economics think of how much power would be generated if every house had a solar panel!
December 17th 2008, 9:32 pm
The Obama administration can easily stimulate the economy in the best most fantastic way ever. Instead of a "highway" program, He can implement an energy production program.
1) Remove all laws that restrict residential resource conservation by HOA's and municipal ordinance, Solar on roofs, small windmill's and water cisterns should all have unfettered installation. Only safety regulations should be enforced.
2) Contract the addition of alternative energy and water collection for residential areas. This provides the short term jobs and stimulus to get people working while priming our transition to independence. Choose home owners that have been responsible and not wasteful and ridiculous. Thus the people who have not behaved badly get a "bail out". (This could end up paying for itself and increasing the good will of the people)
3) The administration then MUST invest int he electrical infrastructure for efficient engergy transmission from residences to relative local business. There is no good market incentive for this.
The ongoing process starts the movement of using alternative energy. Other market incentives that realize that this is more efficient for most people will follow. Carbon taxing and trading is futile since it doesn't address the real concern, which is we need to move from a primarly carbon based energy model.
December 16th 2008, 12:07 pm
My country Sweden introduced a carbon dioxide emission tax in 1991. This tax has been raised several times since. At the same time income taxes have been lowered by similar amounts. We call this a "green tax switch". As an example, the CO2 tax today doubles the price of heating oil compared to the market price, and is a major driving force behind the switch away from heating based on fossil fuels to renewable heating, primarily district heating based on biomass for whole communities, and pellets heating for single homes.
From 1990 until 2007, the emissions of greenhouse gases in Sweden fell by 9.1 percent. GDP during the same time period grew by 48 percent. This is referred to as "decoupling". The use of biomass for energy grew by 79 percent.
I believe in PPP, polluters should pay for their emissions. High emission fees have to be introduced to internalize external environmental costs. Then the market will take care of the choice of technologies.
I work for the Swedish Bioenergy Association. Bioenergy today accounts for 28 percent of the end use of energy in Sweden. We have almost 500 heat plants for district heating using biomass in a country of 9 million people and the size of California. You are welcome to visit and see for yourself how carbon taxation works in practice.
December 16th 2008, 10:45 am
I am hoping you are wrong, and that Obama WILL convince Congress to impose a gas tax. If you look at the last 2 years of gas prices, you will see that American drivers took part in a gigantic price-elasticity experiment. In 2007, gas consumption dropped a mere 5% from the previous year, despite steadily increasing prices. All the profit was realized by Exxon, Chevron, Middle Eastern countries, and the rest of the oil producers. Now that the price of gas has plummeted, it is the best time to introduce at least a pennies-on-the-gallon tax at both the federal and state levels. Some of the state proceeds should cover a tax credit to businesses that are successful in reducing the number of their workers who solo-commute to work. Gas tax money should be used to fund improvements to transit and new transportation schemes -- such as hybrid-electric van-pools, buses, a battery-charging infrastructure for electric vehicles, etc. There is plenty of room for innovation in clean transportation, and no reason why dirty energy money shouldn't be the funding source.
December 15th 2008, 8:19 pm
Historically are most worldwide economic depressions of the scale and scope we are currently facing followed by war? If there is relationship between these two, what are the experts saying on the subject in the context of our current crisis?
December 15th 2008, 3:50 am
Just because it might not be economically viable to impose a tax on dirty, inefficient energy, it does not mean that we cannot send a clear message to corporations, energy suppliers, and consumers in general. These groups have been exposed to a lot of new ideas about the way we view energy consumption and climate change, but it is not clear that they have taken the time to thoroughly digest these new concepts. They have not yet shown that they are willing to change their behaviors. While a price signal would probably be the quickest way to affect the behavior of energy consumers, it is not the only way to affect the energy consumption decision-making process.
We must make it clear to all Americans that a sustainable energy operation and lifestyle will significantly reduce costs in the long-run, enhance the image and security of our nation, curtail energy poverty, and create a healthier environment for us to live in. Once people understand this, they will be more inclined to change their behaviors. As you mention in your book, however, there must be mobilization from the bottom-up and the top-down to create effective change.
I believe our society has the basic understanding of the problem we face, but we need the political will and resources to break free of our dirty energy system. We must create a sustainable system for our posterity. If our government cannot impose taxes on inefficient systems, it must create comprehensive incentives for corporations and consumers to adopt cleaner twenty-first century technologies. As we escape the current economic climate, then we can impose taxes that will charge consumers for the real cost of the energy that they consume.
Our government is currently using this approach in healthcare. If doctors upgrade their patient records to a digital system, the government will give them a tax credit because a digitized record database is believed to cut down on prescription errors and reduce the cost of healthcare. In a few years, our government plans to reverse this policy and impose a penalty on any doctor whose records are not digitized.
Why can't we adopt a similar policy for energy consumption? We need to get the ball rolling by rewarding smart energy decisions. Once people catch on, and there is a more clear path towards the best energy technologies, those that do not embrace the future will be penalized. This will ensure that we move swiftly towards a sustainable society.
December 15th 2008, 1:25 am
Tom:
I agree with you that putting a price on carbon emissions during a major recession will not be popular and probably politically unachievable but what about using both a carrot and a stick? If a carbon tax was balanced out by an equal full 100% dividend return to everyone (or at least all that are here legally) then people could actually improve their financial position in these hard times by reducing their use of polluting energy below the per capita average. Is it possible that such an approach could be sold even in a recessions?
December 13th 2008, 2:32 pm
Please do not scare Tom by asking him to tone down or might be too much of racism. Examine the facts and evaluate the tone where as a writer might be approriately expressed.
Please do not discourage Tom to write imaginatively but it all shows logic at the first place for all Tom's statements. But you are accusing that he is not being science enough, but remember we do need a lot of aspiration to go to the moon without first thinking of a lot of science obstacles. Tom's statement shows courage and kill dirty politic all the time.
December 13th 2008, 1:56 am
Tom
Thanks for stimulating the gray matter. I think a sliding tax may be a solution. Automobiles that get under 25 mpg get a full sales tax and the tax slides down to zero for cars getting over 38 mpg then converts to a a sliding tax rfund on autos getting over 38. For example a Ford F150 would get the full sales tax and Volt or Prius would get a tax rebate. The same could be done for carbon emissions. The same could be done for household energy used, water used.....
December 12th 2008, 11:16 pm
Tom,
In your recent editorial you state that the original model T achieved 25 MPG and stated that this was better mileage than vehicles produce today in Detroit. This is really just another of your mean-spirited, bashing ploys. This is a totally misleading and invalid comparison. Many factors determine mileage, including the speeds and acceleration and deceleration during the driving, i.e, the drive cycle. Any valid comparison would at a minimum require that the vehicles be driven through the same cycle. Very large modern sedans will typically achieve highway fuel economies in excess of 30 mpg if driven at speeds of around 50 mph. I'm guessing that the model T would struggle mightily to even achieve these speeds. The model T, with a compression ratio of about 4 had very poor efficiency vs the modern engines of today. Additionally, it had the potential to spew out carbon monoxide and smog forming pollutants at rates which were thousands of times greater than that of any modern fuel injected vehicle with 3-way catalytic converter (more innovations that came out of Detroit but I digress). Am I boring you with facts?
December 12th 2008, 9:37 pm
Tom,
I agree with you that we should put a price signal in (i.e. taxes on energy sources derived from crude oil) that is significant and painful enough that it drives consumer behavior towards conservation, and stimulates the investment in bio-fuels and other renewable sources. If we did this, I think its probable that you'll see many of the innovations towards fuel efficiency that you aspire to, and I would bet that many of these would come out of Detroit and the rustbelt and the big three, since this is an area where there are many people who actually know how to design and build these innovative and fuel efficient cars, and there would actually be a consistent economic incentive to do this, since consumers would actually be willing to pay for the technologies. I would also guess that many of the major innovations of any scale would not have anything to do with the things that you propose, since it's clear from your writings that you do not possess the basic knowledge in science, mathematics, and thermodynamics necessary to critically evaluate the ideas you support. Writing about what others do is a valid function; however, it doesn't make you an expert. Also, remember that its pretty easy to give advice and propose grandiose ideas, but it is much harder to work through the details and actually implement them.
Additionally, I would suggest that you tone down the rhetoric in your columns which tend to stereotype and paint negative pictures of groups of people you don't seem to like. Specifically, I see alot of your "modernized racism" directed towards people that live in the middle east and more recently people that live in Detroit. Try to think about how it would feel to walk a mile in someone elses shoes.
December 12th 2008, 9:13 pm
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